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Hello Saints, Heroes, SGoTs, Senior Members, Members, Interested and New Members (like me),I feel like at least a Member already because I've been reading this forum for more than 1 month now. I've read many times BFS in a Nutshell, Why You Don't Have ALS 1&2, and many, many of the other posts. I've read Jilllita Horton's articles on Yahoo.While waiting for my account activation (it takes so long) I decided to write down my (not so short) story in notepad ;).I am a 37 years old man, who never had major health problems. But in the begining of 2012 it all began.Since March 2012 I've worried that I might have brain tumor (due to a permanent headache) - clean brain CT. Then I was afraid I have lung cancer (shortness of breath for few months after bronchopneumonia) - clean chest CT. After a C-spine MRI it all eventually turned to be a two-level C-spine discopathy - nucleus pulposus protrusion with spinal cord compression. I am being furtherly diagnosed and maybe an operation will be necessary to remove 2 of the disks c5-6, c6-7.But since I'm here, as you suppose, this is not my major worry, because I don't think my neck problems cause the twitching.As diagnosed with neck problems I was instructed to start swimming on my back, so I started to swim several times a week. After few weeks I noticed that my right leg feels strange and stiff. And I made the worst mistake - I googled "weak, stiff muscles" and ALS pages came out of the dark Internet.At that time I didn't worry too much, because I read about the fascics, the problems with swallowing and so on. I didn'thave those.One morning, when I woke up I noticed that half of my face feels numb. I ran to the mirror and noticed that my tongue seems very thin (compared to my wife's and my kids').I recalled all I've read about ALS and since September I am freaking out that I have this deadly disease. I recalled also a story of a man exactly at my age posting his ALS fears and having all of the symptoms, including (true?) weakness.. This sent me into a downward emotional spiral which leads to not being able to enjoy life any more.I spoke to my wife and told her about my horrible worries. And the next day I had an appointment with a neuro and a psychiatrist. The same evening I noticed my first twitch in the right calf. I'm actually not much worried about the bulbar, because I don't have problems with speaking and swallowing (yet).The neuro (a very nice old lady) examined me and said she didn'd see any ALS symptoms, but since I'm so worried she referred me to a brain MRI and EMG.2 days later I had a clean brain MRI, but I was supposed to have the EMG a week later. Then I started noticing/feeling buzzes, bubble-like twitches, jerks everywhere in my body. This was one of the worst weeks in my life.The EMG (right leg and hand) turned to be completely normal. I went back to the neuro, and she said that since EMG result was normal, let's look for something else. She asked me about my eating habits and learned that I don't like meat. So she said that it can be a B12 defficiency and prescribed me B12 shots (AFAIK you can't overdose B12). I've alredy had the shots, but in the meantime my twitches got worse. Most of the twitches I've seen and felt (yes I feel them) seem to happen in my right calf. I've felt jerks, buzzes everywhere, but 95% of the twitches are in calves. I didn't think that it's a constant 24/7 twitching, but whenever I look at my calves I see a twitch, so it must be quite frequent. I mostly feel them when I'm relaxed or when laying in bed.I have problems with falling asleep. I wake up at 4 am in the morning and can't sleep any more, because my sense of body awareness is off the scale. I read someone in the forum felt the weakest wind in his hairs on his hands and thought of shaving them. I think I've reached a similar level of selfobservation...I had an abdomen twitch under my lowest left rib for 2 days last week. I had a face twitch, lip twitch, left shoulder buzz, but I feel and see buzzes, jerks, thumpers mainly in right calf. And I did the second big mistake - I measured my legs and hands! It turned that my right leg's is 1 cm (about 1/2 inch) thinner in circumference than the left one, especially above the knee and above my ankle. I'm right handed, if it matters, and my right hand is bigger. I know that mommyLDN has a 3/4 inch difference and that this is nothing special, but since it's my more twitching leg thinner I'm worried.In the meantime (october 2012) I got shingles (caused by extreme stress since September, I don't know?). I've read about the theory whether the twitches are caused by a Herpes virus. IMHO - mine got worse after the shingles.My psychiatrist diagnosed me with a Somatic Anxiety Disorder and I'm 6th week on Zoloft. The first few weeks I was on a Benzo/Zoloft combination.I know SSRIs can cause twitching as a side effect, so this may be another reason why my twitching got worse, not only shingles and anxiety...But Zoloft is supposed to be working already and should decrease my [health] anxiety as should the therapist I'm meeting weekly for a month. Unfortunately I don't feel much better and every single twitch i feel or see redirects my thoughts back to ALS and not seeing how my kids (4 and 2 years old) grow up, go to school, ...I don't think I have clinical weakness. I passed all the strength tests - jumping, heels and toes (I could barely walk for a week after the first series of tests). I can do 30 push-ups, I can jump for minutes on each leg. My right leg still feels strange and stiff behind the knee, hamstrig to calf I suppose. I make the self-tests several times a day, so my muscles don't have much time to relax.So I'm 3rd full month into twitching now and I have severe ALS anxiety, despite the meds I'm taking to calm me down... I know that my severe anxiety isn't helping me. As I wrote I have an enormous sense of body awareness - I hate it, but can't reduce it too. I found this site about a month ago. I felt so reassured, that I thought that I will go to my psychiatrist and tell her that I'm already ok.But then came the doubts whether what I'm experiencing is just BFS or a mild begining of ALS (as I wrote above, I first noticed leg weirdness, then twitching)...Sorry for the long post and my English (not a native speaker). And thank you for creating this site and for staying here and helping people in need and fear.And a recent update. Since 12/12/12 I have twitches in my left calf mainly (few per minute), and after inspecting my feet - also in both my feet.It took me 5 minutes in September to believe that I have ALS, how long will it take to believe that it's not?I really will be grateful if someone replies does this story sound like BFS?P.S. Another of my symptoms: cracking joints, night sweating, pins and needles in legs and hands, 2 numb fingers in the left hand and 3 in the right (neck issue I suppose), Lyme WB Test - negative.P.P.S. I am going to have another EMG on Wednesday, so most of you can imagine how I feel now :( - scared that the previous one was done too early and that on wednesday I will hear my death sentence. . __Andy
 
For me it seems pretty well like BFS with all strange things including joint cracks. I always wonder if it is a real symptom of just a sign of extreme attention to our body functions... Neck disk troubles can give a constant headache of course, as well as cause partial face numbness feeling.I would also admit that being under fears we often underestimate or overestimate physical differences. As for your leg difference - I have a suggestion that it is not your right leg smaller but your left is a bit swollen up (regarding locations - knee and ankle, and regarding the fact that you have neck troubles - this might lead to muscle tension in the neck, this leads to circulation changes, and this somehow is reflected onto the limbs tissue - I had such a crap few years ago on right side of the body, this year on the left side... and it was also related to the neck circualtion).
 
Hi Yulia,Happy to hear that it sounds like BFS to you. I've been reading plenty of your reassuring posts in the forum.And I am very grateful for reading and addressing my worries.__Thanks,Andy
 
hey andy sorry to hear you are going through all of this like many of us. you sound alot like me. from your story I see many explanations of whats going on that exclude ALS. you have had compromised immune system, spinal cord compression, major anxiety, and hypocondria going on....nothing from your story sounds like ALS. You would do yourself a lot of good to take some time off from testing yourself, examining yourself, and trying to diagnose yourself, my guess is you are feeding into your symptoms...sounds to me like you are like a lot of us.
 
Hi Andman,We have really similar symptoms and we are in for the same time. I also have night sweats, pins and needles in legs and hands.Also, dont care too much about physical differences in size of your leg. For example, I have a dent in my tight, quite a big one, and both neuro and family doctor told be that it's nothing, they don't care at all, and that it's probably there for years. What seems to matters is if muscle are working or not.I also experience wake up early like you, 4 or 5 am and then it's hard to fall asleep cause of body awareness. When I am nervous on evening, I take benzo before going to bed but I didn't took the SSRI I was offered, they indeed could make you twitch and I think I already twitch enough by myself :)Finally, I am 33 and I also have 2 boys, 4 and 2 years old, so I think we are really in the same situations. Let's hope everything will be OK for both of us (and of course all the members of this nice board) and that in a few month or years maybe we could laugh at those messages.The thing that is really striking me is that we both knew about als symptoms BEFORE knowing that we had the symptoms. I am still asking myself if my brain could have triggered the fasics, or if they were just there waiting for me to look at them. Don't mind about your next EMG, I am sure it will be 100% clean.See you around :)
 
TwitchyAz,Thank you for your words, that nothing of my story points towards the scary disease. I'm not googling anything else except "site:bfsforum.com ..." for 1 month... I'm addicted to this site and have nitoced that a big part of th people were feeling the same as I am now when they joined this community. I admire those like you, who come here to say that they are OK and want to help others in need.Christo,You keep surprising me that our stories are so similar.There is 1 difference - I have a 4 years old daughter, and 2 years old son :).Regarding the EMG - I was going to have some "neck nerves" measured - neurosurgeons want to assess the compression of the spinal cord before deciding to operate or not. I spoke to the neuro who is going to make the EMG about my ALS fears, and she said "OK, I understand you consulted dr Google and live in fear. We'll check this too when you come here for the neck nerves examinaion". I thought that this was a good idea, but 1 hour later my fear was off the scale. My next 5 days will be as horrible as the week I waited for the 1st EMG.And one more thing - since I posted you yesterday that 2 days ago I noticed the left calf twitches, 90% of my twitches are in the left calf, 5% right calf and feet, 5% random buzzes. I didn't pay attention to my left calf for 3 months and now I feel and see a twitch there every minute or so...Thank you very much for your reassuring words,Andy
 
I too have little kids and the stress of making sure they are ok is a lot to handle...don't underestimate the load on our subconscious. Also If you aren't already I would pursue physical therapy for your neck. I'm sure the surgeons would push for conventional treatment before operations. if not you need to find out specifically why. traction and other therapies take weeks to see improvements and often are just as successful as surgical intervention. surgery has its own set of issues. I also have disc protrusions and concentrating on correcting my posture and stretching and therapy has actually reduced my worry on BFS symptoms...i highly recommend diverting your attention there. 50% of my twitches are my right calf...25% my left leg and the other 25% dispersed throughout the body. I defintiely think BFS has hotspots on individuals.your nerves are in a excitable stage...find ways to calm it all down...avoid caffeine, chocolate, smoking...eat healthy, breathe, pray, and most of all laugh with your family. your gonna be ok
 
TwitchyAz,I have tried physical therapies, but they did't help. My neck got worse.As for my extreme anxiety, you are right that I should divert my attention to something else than my body. I'm trying my best and the only thing that is helping me is this forum - it's so reassuring.Still just wondering why it was so easy to blieve in the scary disease and why it takes so long to believe that it's benign?__Take care,Andy
 
Why is my mind so weak and I believe in having the nasty disease?Last week, prior to scheduling the EMG I felt much better than now. Now I'm in a panic I can't describe. 10/10 scale :(And on wednesday it will be 100 (in a 1-10 scale). Need help, please...__Andy
 
Hey andman,I know how you feel, I was there, and will be there again when I will have my second emg (scheduled for february 12th). Try to relax, keep in mind that this is a rare dicease and that's even more rare to start with only fasics. Also, this board is full of people who have twitches all day long for months or years without developping something more sinister, so that's a rock solid proof that twitches could be benign. I have my good and bad days. When I am in a bad day, my fears seem to stop my brain from working as usual. For example, saturday evening, before going to bed, I was watching my hands. And I saw that left was more wrinkled that the right. Of course, the left is where all started and I almost convinced myself that the left was atrophied. This was *beep* of course. On sunday morning I watched both hands, confirmed that the left is a little more wrinkled, maybe cause I am left handed of maybe something else, but the left is definetly not atrophied. My brain was on again. Dont let the fear stop your brain from thinking rationnaly. You had a clean EMG, you have no worrying symptoms, just twitches like everyone else here. Also, just like me, you didn't had or didn't knew you had twitches before googling ALS. What is the chance for someone before 40 to get ALS : 1 on 165 000 000What is the chance for someone to get ALS starting with only fasics : less than 10%What is the chance for someone before 40 to get ALS starting with only fasics : 1 650 000 000What is the chance for someone before 40 to get ALS starting with only fasics to google for ALS before seeing twitches : come on man, you can't be so unlucky !!!Dont forget to share the result of the EMG with us, which obviously will be all clear, but it will ease others that are sharing same symptoms like me :)Have a nice day andman and try to relax (and I know how hard it is).
 
Hello guys,Clean neuro exam and clean EMG!!! :) The neuro said nothing looked like ALS for her.Thank you for your words and helping me to go through the last days... God bless you all!Andy
 
Hi,As I wrote above my neurological appointment was initially meant to test the neck nerves. They made this and confirmed the disk issues.After the initial clinical exam, the neuro suggested that there is really no need of EMG, because she didn't see anything concerning. She reminded me that the needles aren't a pleasant thing, but I insisted. The EMG was of the left leg and the left hand because I told the neuro, that my left calf is twitching mostly (previously I had right hand and right leg EMG).There is no official BFS diagnosis in Europe as I already understood studying this board. So I didn't hear the words BFS, but a lot of sentences that meant the same.__Take care,Andy
 
I'm just 4 months into twitching now.What has changed from my last post?hotspots: both calvesrandom twitches: thighs, hamstrings, above knees, left palm (outside between the pinky and wrist), biceps, triceps, feet, hands, tremor feeling in left hamstringI'm not on Zoloft any more - it didn't seem to help my anxiety so I deciced to discontinue it.Other symptoms: numb left thigh (for 2 weeks), tingling right big toe (for 1 month), 2 level cervical disc protrusion (2 and 3.5 mm with spinal cord compression ), cervical stenosis (8mm canal)Does it still sound like BFS...?Take care,Andy
 
Hi Christo,Happy to see you around :)I'm not a doctor too, but after quite a lot of internet research (ouch!, bad Google!) I found many information that cervical myelopathy (only 1 doctor used this term for my condition so far) can cause many of my upper and lower limb symptoms.But I've found also information that all my sympoms cannot be due to neck problems.I've had a second C-spine MRI and it showed that the protrusion is 0.7mm bigger than it was in September and of course the cord compression is more severe.What seems rational - spinal cord compression is not a good thing. It can cause symptoms below the level of compression. Especially when the compression is for quite a while.Other spinal diseases cause similar symptoms (syringomyelia, spinal tumors, etc...)What we fear most also affects the spine. So I would like to believe everything in my case has it's explanation in my neck probems. But while I'm the "half glass empty" type of guy, I'm worried...Take care, and thanks for your comment. Hope you are right... or this is just BFSAndy
 
Hi TwitchyAz,Happy to hear from you too.I've seen 4 neurosurgeons, and 3 of them recommended an operation.The fourth thinks it's too early, because I don't experience much pain.They all agree that hand and neck issues are from the c spine protrusions.But the leg issues? I've read many articles that cervical myelopathy (stenosis or herniation causing cord compression) can cause upper and lower limb issues.My compression doesn't seem to be so severe, but is big enough so almost all doctors recommend an operation...Take care,Andy
 

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